Johnson County Community Radio Interview

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File name: [Comments] Speakers: [From left to right (Males: Francisco Hernandez, Brent, Ben), (Females: Michelle, Connie Little, Pam Aster] Duration: [01:17:02] Script: [Clean script] [Video Starts]

Francisco: 1, 2,3,4,5 check check, Mic check
Connie: We are going to be short of some headphones
Pam: I can get somebody mounting this—
Connie: No, there are two out there I think
Ben: No, it is just
Pam: There is only four on the outside, one for each.
Francisco: Is it going to be on video too?
Ben: It is going to be Facebook live.
Francisco: My coat, do you want me to take my coat?
Ben: No, no—how do you want to do it?
Francisco: whatever you say
Brent: take your time [laugh] just kidding.
Ben: [Laughing] Pam: This is not strip radio, FYI, we are not playing strip radio. [Laugh] Brent: Lose the tie
Pam: There is nothing coming off. Maybe my shoes, maybe my shoes [laugh] Ben: Well I am keeping my tie.
Brent: Does this thing mess your hair up Ben.
Pam: [laugh] Ben: like a little—
Brent: Is that bad?
Pam: No, we gave him heck about his hair yesterday too. [Laugh] Francisco: Hello, hello
Pam: That is Tiffany.
Ben: Yeah, a little bit at the end.
Francisco: Good?
Ben: Yeah you are good, you are good
Connie: You need your mic up is that what you sent me?
Ben: I thought maybe he needed his up a bit.
Pam: If everybody will do test, test. We got two minutes.
Ben: Testing 1, 2.
Pam: Mic number 2.
Brent: Testing 1, 2. That sounds horrible.
Ben: [laugh] Brent: I need some water. [Laugh] Francisco: What do you want me to check in on?
Brent: I do not know, I am looking at the same thing I guess Facebook huh.
Francisco: Yeah, but does it come up –the station?
Pam: Joe Co community radio, are you following us and liking us?
Ben: They want to get the link, it is what they are doing.
Francisco: Of course I am.
Pam: Of course you better be [laugh] Connie: He has been schooled.
[Audio Overlap 00:01:37-00:01:38] Francisco: Here it is.
Pam: You got it?
Francisco: Yup Got it.
Pam: So, like and follow.
Francisco: The first one I guess.
Ben: Michelle did you grab a Taco?
Michelle: I didn’t
Pam: We got one minute.
Ben: Darn it, those are delicious.
Connie: you can take off the batter and everything off.
Connie: Say cheese
Pam: 30 seconds to the intro.
Brent: Is that right?
Pam: Hit the like button.
Brent: I did. Oh, I did not. What was I thinking?
Pam: I do not know. [Laugh] Connie: and we are live now so you all can go ahead and share it if you like.
Unidentified: She is saying she is so positive, I do not know who that is. Obviously she is talking about me.
Pam: Thank you for watching this on Facebook. We are going live here in 22 seconds.
Unidentified: Oh Connie
Connie: What?
Unidentified: It is so positive
Connie: I am so positive?
Ben: Good afternoon, and welcome to Burleson star live. This is what I can describe as jam packed Wednesday. We have tons of awesome guests for you and a little plate of amazing Rio mambo food here in the background kind of shades what we are going to expect, a little closer to Christmas when our own local Rio Mambo opens up. We have the owner here as well. Guys if you can just introduce yourselves, starting with Connie or actually with Pam.
Pam: Pam Aster, owner of JOCKO community radio.
Connie: Connie Little, JOCKO Community radio here for all you advertising needs, contact me
Michelle: She has got a great voice.
Michelle: Michelle Davis, with I-fit, I-fit elite, Crowley Burleson. Welcome.
Pam: I think it is kind of sad that he put you here today and we have to eat this food.
Michelle: I am going to talk about that too.
Connie: I am glad I already ate it.
Francisco: Francis Hernandez, attorney here at Fort Worth, grew up with Ben
Ben: Yes, also a very passionate proponent for the immigrant community.
Francis: I would like to think of myself as that.
Ben: And who you have wrestled with Tucker Carlson?
Francis: We have wrestled in the mud yes.
Ben: And you have a lots of friends who like to watch you wrestle. I mean not physically but you know with the–
Francis: Yeah well you know, my grandma always said “if you are not making somebody mad you are not doing the job.”
Pam: Oo I like that
Ben: That is true.
Pam: Session is better today
Ben: Also—
Francis: She said that if you are not pissing somebody off.
Pam: You can say it. It is okay.
Francis: I can say it? If you are not pissing somebody off, you are not doing your job.
Ben: You also worked with Vincente Fox’s campaign back in the day, how long was that?
Francis: I did, it was in 2000, 2001.
Ben: well, that is some great stuff and I was kind of hoping—kind of visit here in a minute after we introduce our early guest—
Francis: You do need to introduce everybody—
Brent: Brent Johnson, with the Rio Mambo and the rim, and Francisco, my grandma did not say that for the restaurant business.
Francisco: [laughing] Brent: I try not to do that, but I do some time to time.
Ben: You are hard at work getting your, I guess your local Rio mambo established here. I think you said something like you are hoping next close to the Christmas time?
Brent: We are definitely hoping to be open by Christmas; it will be a great Christmas present for our entire company and hopefully for the community of Burleson and its surrounding areas.
Ben: Well in addition like I said earlier being mentioned by the city is one of the big cooz, have you given a lot of fan fair people who have been coming up to you and saying, “when are you getting that restaurant open? I want to eat there!”
Brent: Well, we have actually had a few threatening emails actually, it has been a little aggressive [laugh], we—the sign kind of got up a little earlier than we like it too, but, no in all sincerity probably but not easily the most intense response to opening a restaurant has been here in Burleson area, prior to that was Weatherford and this is no different, we have had a lot of great amazing people talk about us, call us and inquire about us. We have already got about 30 employees hired and we will do our first orientation of staff tomorrow.
Ben: What is your—I guess right now what is your specialty? I mean of all the specialties you have what are you most proud of presenting—
Brent: Fried Chicken
Francisco: [laugh] Fried chicken
Pam: [laugh] Brent: Are there elbows allowed here in the studio?
Ben: [laugh] Pam: yes, usually I am the one that gets them.
Ben: It is just mad they are instant buddies.
Brent: Yeah I like that—
Pam: We have already had somebody stripping taking pieces of clothing off, why not just have context sport radios.
Brent: Listen anybody, anybody who supports the immigrant community is a friend of mine.
Pam: Amen.
Brent: You know, it is Rio Mambo tex mex y mas and obviously classic tex mex is something we feel like we do really well, I am a big sauce guy but the amass part is I had the opportunity to travel to Mexico for a number of years and more means more. We do a lot of seafood. Today we have got some salmon back here, salmon Yucatán where the Mexican—
Michelle: It was awesome
Ben: It was fine.
Brent: Grilled tacos, you know we, we like to take Mexican food, kind of heavenly call it chef mex. You know cooks—cooks deal with the recipes, chef—chef deals with the ingredients. We are very ingredient driven trying to find the best ingredients, keep it simple and have a sort of flavor profiles in everything we do, but I would say that is kind of what we take pride in.
Ben: Now, the stuff you brought in, I had a—with seemed to me a roast beef taco or a brisket taco.
Brent: Grilled brisket taco is probably one of our best sellers, we do it with the fajita sauce which is a mild Mexican pepper with some cilantro and some tomatoes. It is fairly mild so people can enjoy that.
Ben: Melts, melts, in the tongue.
Brent: Yeah absolutely we cook it overnight the brisket is slowly cooked overnight with cabana peppers and onions and—
Ben: That is the kind of care a barbeque place would use.
Brent: Yeah, I actually I have a little about 10 years of barbeque experience but, we came on to that—we opened up we knew that is kind of one of the things we want to feature and the chef does a really good job with it.
Ben: And you have a chicken version of it too.
Brent: The chicken chipotle, again we do grilled chicken, Fajitas Taco grilled, beefated tacos and those are great but I had always had to throw something in else, the chicken chipotle has—we do some roasted peppers in it, we do some sautéed and glazed onions in it. So it is kind of—
Francisco: My stomach is rumbling.
Brent; It is kind of the ying and that yang if you will in the chipotle sauce so it is a great item. If I am being honest I probably brought the things that I enjoy eating the most.
Ben: I am glad you did! Because I mean it was—
Pam: That is why we had Christmas presents too.
Ben: [laugh] The Thai master and all that crazy stuff. Well, I could actually see that either of those replacing a traditional taco on the plates.
Brent: Sure, sure absolutely.
Ben: I guess if you have people come in who were not as aware of Rio mambos—some of the other fans, that is probably they would start with as the traditional taco-enchilada combo.
Brent: Well, if the service allows them to, I mean we do not tell you what to eat but part of the service we try to provide is—
Francisco: [00:08:28-00:08:29] Francisco: I go once a week to the one on Brown Avenue.
Brent: Oh, God bless you I appreciate that
Ben: [laugh] Brent: But they are excited about the food as well, and you know we listen to crispy Tacos, crispy tacos and we do them all day, but if you are going to have a taco we try to tell you what we really enjoy presenting to the guest and something, something different, because at the end of the day it is the overall experience, and we do not like to take orders, we like to share with you the experience. Again gently nudge you towards some items that you might have had at other places, yeah.
Ben: And the salsa, delicious.
Brent: Well, it is very straight forward, it is—we do it fresh every day, fresh tomato, fresh cilantro. You know everything is fresh; we do it every single day sometimes twice a day. We are thinking about doing it two or three times here in Burleson we are hoping that we do.
Francisco: Tell them about the hot, hot sauce that you all reserve for special customers in the back room yeah [laugh] the off menu hot sauce.
Brent: Yeah, that is the one—that is the one that the chefs and I gather around and eat most of the time the Molcajete sauce, and depending on the time of the year because Jalapeño’s and habaneros have different flavors so it is a—it is when we have to watch really close. It is a very good flavor, garlic and tomatoes, and jalapeños or habaneros depending on the time of the year and when our guest—because our table sauces it is mild,
Francisco: for the masses
Brent: you know, my wife, my wife is Hispanic and she will not eat hot, hot, hot sauce she does not have that taste profile, so we do a kind of a mild for a lot of people, but if we ever hear someone say it is not hot enough, we bring you the Molcajete, now you can eat that straight forward, we do not always recommend that or you can take it a tablespoon at a time and add it to the red sauce and it is a wonderful sauce.
Francisco: If there are two margaritas they are going to nudge you out of the place
Brent: Thank you, thank you.
Ben: Well the food is going to be in general—
Francisco: I didn’t knew that he was going to be here but it was great
Ben: Yeah it is one of those things, you know it is kind of interesting because sometimes I am going to guess things that I can only come in on this day or this day and I am like “well, okay we will just match it up” and we get these amazing friendships that developed from guests it is just amazing.
Brent: It is amazing.
Ben: Right Pam, I mean you tell me that all the time.
Pam: I do, it is, it is just a different kind of way to do radio I just love it.
Ben: Peanut butter and chocolate kind of a mix. But okay, so we are about the same age, and I—my stepson walks in on me and I am doing my usual thing of eating Jalapenos right from the bottle and I used to be ‘Mr. Oh no I cannot take a punch of this’ you know, but lately in life I have been hotter and hotter and so I am told that my taste buds [laugh] are kind of dying out, and that is why I am doing that, and I do not want to believe that because I like to think my taste buds are as vital as they have ever been.
Francisco: What you learned is that sweet stuff you put at the tip of your tongue and the hot stuff goes to the back of your tongue. If you taste the peppers with the tip of your tongue that is what stings you. If you just learn that trick then you get to the taste of the pepper, am I wrong?
Brent: No, no that is absolutely correct, it is like anything, people drink wine whatever you are eating, it is different flavors–
Brent: And I can neither confirm nor deny whether you are hot or not. So–
Ben: Well, it is—it is really good and I guess—you know like I have had like super-hot but I have not had that, I am guessing that is your mild stuff.
Brent: Yes, this is the table salsa right.
Ben: Okay, so like if you went to Taco Bell, it would be the mild whereas the superhot, the super-hot—
Francisco: Oh no, come on.
Brent: We do not tear up the plastic bag so…
[Everyone laughs] Ben: Well you know back to you, and then Frank we are going to get back into the immigration—
Francisco: We are going just fine my friend I am just thinking of the hot sauce tonight.
Ben: Yeah I know right, because the first thing I did was tear into that food when you opened it, I wasn’t sure that if I am going to get my portion.
Brent: Well, let us be honest you asked me in the lobby if we had salsa in the baggie. We tried to get it out there.
Ben: Yeah I was [inaudible] really hard yeah. [Laugh] Ben: Wow, you picked that up, alright, I am told my subtleness is legendary, now, so really you have these people come in and a lot of them heard of Rio mambo but they have not tasted it
Brent: Right
Ben: so you have your chefs there to kind of chat it up and make them feel at home and friendly does that get a lot of them over? I mean, it sounds like you are trying to defeat the generic meals.
Brent: Well, you know we—there is a difference, we use the term “distinctive” we do not try to be better or worse—I have had plenty of reviews in my life time, some are very good, and some not so good. I am not as good as my best and I am not as bad as my worst, so we use the term “distinctive”, you got to show “you may like it I may not”, does not mean either one of us are wrong. With our food we want to—the food experience and the guest experience, we want you to know you have been to Rio Mambo, we do not want you to just feel like you got fed somewhere.
So, it starts with the relationship we have with the community, the relationship we have beginning tomorrow with our staff, developing relationships. And then into the food, talking about the food and why we present it in a certain way, why we prepare it a certain way, how often we prepare it. You know so, we want them to understand that we are not opening plastic patches, we are doing this the fresh every day, lunch, dinner, brunch, on the weekends so….
Francisco: and this is no paid endorsement but I got to tell you what I like from the first time I went, it is just you walking in and you talking to the waiters and the bartenders, it is the conversation, you know loosely referred as an experience, but you go in there and they start joking and they do get to know you, they know what you are going to want, they walk in and—
Ben: And I like that, I like that.
Francisco: yeah, you know I got to say, well, I love the food but yeah, I go in there and just start laughing, I mean it is experience, they do remember, I don’t know, they are really good at remembering people, not just me, but the—
Michelle: I have a great Rio Mambo story. I went in there the first time, I went in there off the brine we went
Francisco: These are not paid endorsements.
Michelle: No, no, I, I never met, never met—
Ben: She is the workout queen, this is the opposite of paid endorsements.
Michelle: No, I actually eat very healthy when I go there but I went there and I had never been there before, and there was a group of military guys eating in there, they were all in uniforms and I went over to them and we were with a couple of people, and I said you know “thank you for your service” and I chatted them up for a minute and we went to our table. At the end of our meal, those guys had left, it was all table and they had left and then at the end of our meal the lady comes, the waitress comes and says “hey these guys paid for all of your meals” so we did not even pay for our meals the first time we were there.
I am not saying that is going to happen to you guys, I am just telling you. It happened to me, so yeah, it was phenomenal I just remembered my first time there I got my meal paid for so
Ben: That is awesome
Brent: Well Rio mambo stands for—I am going to give this to Francisco, he has been the most participative so far.
Michelle: You do not know, they have to turn my mic off.
Brent: but I will—I am going to bring some more bracelets up in here but Rio Mambo stands for “relationships matter” and from the day we started, it has been about relationships. You know we have got people who have worked for us for you know 15, 16, 17 my chef has been with me for over 22 in other places. So we start with the relationships we have with our staff, that is what we believe is the most important and then from there we go to the relationship we have with our community we serve, and try to be involved in the church community, the school community, business community and local charities because at the end of the day you can get fed at a lot of places but to have that experience and to develop relationships—[inaudible] friend of mine who I worked with and I respect dearly, he told me “listen, if you are going to build a restaurant, build it with colors and design it in a way that you are going to love it because you are going to be there all the time. So might as well surround yourself with a lot of friends” and that is the good part of my job is that when I go there, whether it is people on this side of the counter my guest, I mean my staff, they are part of my family, and the other side of the counter too.
You know, my wife said “I get all my social needs met at work”, so she had a problem with that for years, because I talk 24/7. So but no it is the relationship that really matters the most and we happen to use food as a method to develop those relationships and alcohol [laugh] Ben: Food and Alcohol! So you have got eight restaurants so far?
Brent: That is correct, yes sir.
Ben: What was in your mind with the first one? What was the magic that went into that? What did you preserve from that for the other ones?
Brent: You know it is just what I said, we opened up on 9/11/2001, pretty difficult day and I think I shared with you earlier, if my brother-in-law Rolvin Martinez is my wife’s brother we all went to school together. I shared earlier that I have known my wife since middle school, I chased her through the ten year high school reunion and have been married since then and she is a lovely woman but, it was a relationship you know—when we started off we made very little and lost a lot, you know and if I had a dime for every time somebody hoped we would still be there, but it was developing relationships and I will give you an example. We did a catering of a hundred people in December only because by December after September I really could not turn down a catering for a hundred people but I didn’t want you to eat my food for the first time in an office like this or certainly out in a field somewhere because it is just hard to translate.
But we do a ton of it but so I was really—but I did it, it was a friend of mine Randy Gideon, great guy he had helped me in a previous restaurant and he said “listen my wife and I really wants you to do this”. So he had a hundred people there and they were exactly hundred I remember because I counted them.
There were two people there who had eaten at Rio Mambo before, Randy and his wife. There were three people who had heard of Rio Mambo before, there were ninety five who had never even understood who we were. So I knew it then we had a long way to go in terms of building relationships and for that plate I know it sounds a little—I know—it was one plate at a time, one hand shake at a time, one hug at a time.
Francisco: Well an introduction but Randy did get you into a lot of places,
Brent: Yeah right, Randy is a good guy.
Ben: The food must have been good if you got your hugs in the first meetings.
Brent: Oh yeah, absolutely.
Ben: ‘I love you so much’ [laugh] Brent: Well, I was actually hugged, praying for them to come back and I was begging them as I was hugging them so… [laugh] Michelle: I, I love your business model because it is very similar to what what I say to people is, you can go to a lot of gyms and you can get on a treadmill anywhere but you cannot get a family like you are going to get where we are at, and that is what we feel like, it is a family and so you might get hugs that are—probably not from me because I am not really like that but yeah you are going to get some hugs from somebody so, my staff is great at hugging, they try to do it to me all the time.
Connie: Am I sitting too close to you? [Laugh] Michelle: Yeah you are a little Connie. [Laugh] I was going to tell you. You are crowding up my personal space.
Ben: Oh my gosh [laugh] Ben: Well Frank, let us get to you buddy. [phone rings] oh great.
Pam: Brent forgot to put his phone on vibrate.
Brent: I thought we were on commercial for a second.
Michelle: I don’t want to say when I was teasing you about Sam pissed off because I am always the one that is in trouble so I just want to—and you fell right into it – you did not even hesitate—it was like ‘hey we can take this’ you just went ‘okay, then you just take it’ [laugh] I love that.
Ben: Awesome
Francisco: Ben it is funny because you can tell how long I have known somebody on how they call me and you said “Fran”, you know and it is funny.
Ben: Francisco [laugh] Francisco: Yeah in high school and college I was Fran.
Ben: Yeah, yeah, Pascal and—I had a friend who and I was going—
Francisco: You went to high school?
Ben: I did go to high school but I was briefly back—
Francisco: We have forgiven you for this.
Ben: I was briefly back at Pascal before I went up to a couple of other boarding schools, I will get to it later.
Francisco: You were best friends with my girlfriend.
Ben: Yeah, Cindy yeah.
Francisco: Do not say her last name because she won’t admit that she dated me so.
Ben: Oh, I do not know she was pretty proud of it back in the days. [Laugh] “Oh look at Fran, Oh look at his eyes”
Francisco: Oh stop!
Ben: Yeah. Anyway…
Pam: I like Francisco by the way, I mean I like the whole name.
Francisco: me too, oh you like the name.
Pam: I mean I am saying that I like to say the whole name.
Ben: It is very distinguished.
Michelle: There is ethnic, I mean you know it is ethnic and I like it.
Francisco: Well, but you know when you are a teenager and you are Mexican here, we moved here from Mexico and you go through the rebellious stage, and you know you get to a point where you do not want to be a Francisco, you do not want to speak Spanish anymore. You are a teenager—
Michelle: Did you change your name to Bob or?
Ben: That was a rebel thing.
Francisco: Oh there was a—like yeah, one of my best friends he said “Look man, if you want to finish the school you know you cannot be a Francisco, you got to go by Fran”, so he changed my name to Fran. It was Fran…
Michelle: So he gave you a kind of a girl sounding name to make you fit in. [laugh] could have been a john Wayne or—
Francisco: Well yeah whatever it was, it was boring, I had to go by polo. I was the Pedro
Michelle: Oh, yeah.
Ben: I will admit the first time that I heard your name, someone goes “Oh a guy named Fran” and then you walked in, and all the girls were like’ yeah a guy named Fran’
Michelle: It is Francisco people.
Francisco: You are embarrassing my friend. [Laugh] Ben: You had a—you were talking about moving from Mexico, what age were you when that happened?
Francisco: I was 13, 8th grade.
Ben: 13? Wow! Was that not a big switch?
Francisco: Oh boy yeah, I mean I was excited about it, but it was learning English and you know my first school [inaudible] you know you cannot do anymore is when you coming out and then this one guy has been riding you at the basketball game, I am 4’8 feet you know playing basketball right, so you know I mean, playing basketball right. So you know I mean first person they ever called me a “Wetback” you know and I did not know what it was, you know, because I could tell just from the sound of everybody goes “oohh”
Ben: Welcome to America.
Francisco: Oh, I do not know, “I got to punch this guy, I do not know what he said but”—
Michelle: I do not know what it means.
Francisco: But this is where you got to stand up for yourself.
Ben: Yeah it was pretty rough back then
Francisco: Yeah you know we went at it but he was my best friend after that all through 8th grade.
Ben: You must have beaten him really good. [laugh] Pow! “I want to be your friend”
Michelle: Who has got the green eyes? Because you have got green eyes.
Francisco: It is from my dad.
Michelle: Oh, okay, it is just different.
Francisco: It is from my dad’s side, you know people—you know I do get questioned a lot that you do not look like a Francisco, and I am like “well you know but”—
Ben: Somebody, somebody is turning up the volume.
Francisco: It is middle of Mexico to south Mexico, there was a lot of French influence, there was a lot of Spanish, you know the “ethnic cleansing” I call it, it was and it was. But you know there were a lot of light skinned, light colored people in Mexico, the nicknamed for “sadcose” but you know there is no stereotypical deal, there is the indigenous population and then the further you go into South America, it is—you know, there is no cookie mold to that.
Michelle: Right!
Brent: That is interesting. It is interesting you say that experience. I grew up in San Antonio and I was actually the minority there.
Francisco: You were the white guy?
Brent: Yes. So the first Hispanic word-Mexican-Spanish word I learned was Vallejo, so when I heard Vallejo, it was time to fight and I know I was the only one they were talking about. Yeah so I understand.
Francisco. Yeah.
Ben: The first two I heard were dirty words, so I guess [laughing] Michelle: Before we go on, can we give a shout out to Debbie Johnstons watching Marry Hertz and Chris Bruter, and Hector Frovintez and we would like to give you all a shout out for watching. Thank you so much.
Pam: And please share this video.
Francisco: and Dorothy.Hannah, [inaudible] she is an angel, I am going to say she is still kicking about running the dairies out here. She is so good, she so good to the immigrants, she is an angel. Dot Hannah, she is a fantastic one, she lives here in Johnstown County.
Ben: Thank you for listening in; it is a pleasure to have a listener such as yourself Dorothy Dot Hannah.
Ben: Anyone on your side sir?
Brent: I cannot get plugged in—I am not technologically.
Michelle: Inclined? [laughs] Brent: Inclined, yeah, here you go
Connie: I can help you out
Ben: Connie can help, they can help.
Ben: Well, so I was going to—I was wondering when you decided to become an attorney because it seems like you started pretty early, because I think [inaudible] you must have just gotten into college college before you went off to get your—so were you already planning to be an attorney at that point or?
Francisco: No, you know my dad always pushed me to do it, and that was probably the biggest reason why I did not want to do it but in college I drove a freight truck and that is just—you know I wanted to be as far away from law, from anything, and then literally you know 116 degree heat and an 18 wheeler load and a freight, the box fell in the back of my head and knocked me out and I remember the moment and I got up and said “you know what, it has got to be something else”. So I went back and changed my major and started up, you know grades went up and then you know you eventually you find your passion.
My very first case, very first case ever as a lawyer, I was at a big civil firm in Fort Worth, and my dad forged my name on a political asylum case in Dallas, and I get a phone call “you know the trial is starting you are an hour late”. I am like “to what?”
You know my told me that these people needed help and I did not know that it was a trial put up there. I did not know, I had never opened a page of immigration but we went in this Nick and family’s political asylum, we went at it. Long, long, long story, I still do not know how I won it, and we won it. Then I was like “okay, well this is kind of cool”.
Ben: Wow, what—so your dad—it was like a Rockford Files episode, where the dad kind of signs the son’s name.
Francisco: He did—he put my name on it and I was so mad at him, but what are you going to do? You cannot tell the judge that your dad forged your name on the notice of appearance.
Ben: Of course it was your dad, so I mean.
Francisco: Of course it was my dad yeah.
Ben: So, does that kind of give you a taste for it? That type of law?
Francisco: It did and you know—I mean it was always kind of a hidden passion, I just rejected it, I really did reject, I have got to admit that I rejected it and you know I kind of came from you know in Law School I worked for the largest law firm in the world, I was kind of snooty about it you know “hey”.
Then I came back and I was with a big law firm for two years and then I was two years with Southwestern Bell in house corporate counsel. So it was kind of beneath me, and I kind of take pride in that because there was a judge very heavy duty [inaudible] Darrel Coffey, retired a couple years ago and I saw him at a political function, he gave me a pair of boots for an award I had gotten for community service and he said “Francisco, I want you to come up here—you need to come back, quit your job at Southwestern Bell, I know you are a big shot over there but you come over here, start your own practice, come back and represent your people” and I am like “what do you mean my people?”
“You need to come back here and represent your people, they need help they need representation like that” He goes “I am going to make you a bet, you come up here and try criminal case with us, just come out up here, we will protect you and make sure that you do not screw it up. And you come on up here and I guarantee you, you are going to like it so much you are going to quit your job, you are going to come back and start your own practice” This was like March, right before the primary in 1994 and then so Memorial Day weekend I came up and took a couple of days off, came up tried my first criminal case, I guess now Federal Judge Redo Conner, he was a misdemeanor prosecutor then, I got my butt whooped in about 5 minutes. I mean the jury gave verdict in less than 5 minutes, and that is okay, I mean we protected the client, yeah he didn’t go to jail alone, no he was fine but you know he had said that he was going to give me these appointments, I was going to make like $2000 in one hour if I didn’t like it I could cash in the bet and so man I am telling you then I went back, get my notice and September 1st 1994 I was back in Fort Worth in an office about the size of this room. Started my own practive in just you know with the $1000, just gave it a whirl [laugh].
Ben: Was that the one you have now or was it the different one?
Francisco: Oh no, we have grown a little bit.
Ben: Oh I mean the name—I mean on your Facebook profile it was Texas Mexico or something like that
Francisco: Oh that is the website that came around when the internet started in the early 2000s and the—but I started right there and in 7th street now we have 3 offices you know one on west berry street, one in downtime and we got like—we bought like a couple of buildings and just a—I got to say, yeah it is maybe my passion I am proud of but my dad was very—he has Alzheimer, he is elderly but he is very loved in the community specially the Spanish speaking community.
So even now, 24 years later once or twice a year somebody comes in the office and looks at me and goes “are you Mr. Hernandez?” “Yeah” “Oh, we kind of pictured you may be older” and I go “and rounder?”
Ben: with a handle bar mustache.
Francisco: I think they are coming in to see my dad you know we share the same name and so I was lucky enough to build my practice on my daddy’s name.
Ben: That is cool
Francisco: and oh yeah, well you know, you got it played right.
Michelle: No shame in that, that is right
Francisco: They will run from it like I did for years and—but you know this judge Coffey got my attention and he really changed my whole practice. I still stay in touch with him, he is a great guy.
Ben: what does your case looks like these days?
Francisco: We are pretty busy and—it is as busy as we can be, I mean every year you know we are doing great, we are just representing people, we work on Saturdays, we you know clients are getting my texts, it is not a commercial “Well, I don’t need a commercial”
People are like why are you going to Fox News and get beat up so much and I am like “well you know you cannot save any souls in Church”. Some of my greatest friendships have come out of Fox News and I will tell you that I have been offered paid positions, I have never taken it but Fox News doesn’t pay not even my transportation to the studio, I go to Florida I pay for my airplanes. So nobody can say that I am paid by Fox News. I am not a Fox News guy, I am not a Trump guy Okay!, I am not in there, I am just saying there is a lot more ground to gain on that side than on my side. On my side I am preaching to the quire I am not changing anybody’s mind but you know I found that 9/10 of these haters—well I tell about this one former marine that just blistered me [inaudible] I can show you the comment, it was so nasty
This former Marine’s name is Brian Johnson, lives in Austin. But let me tell you, Brian Johnson drives a general lee I swear, has a general lee, I got a picture and that guy –I am telling you he drove 7 hours to pick me up at the airport to make sure I am at the border segment with John Hannity on the river on the border. He is like my brother, he would do anything—[Laughs] Ben: On his own steam
Francisco: and we just started engaging, you know engaging and engaging and talking—
Connie: so it started off horrible?
Francisco: Horrible, horrible.
Connie: horrible and then you want him out.
Francisco: and so there is something—
Ben: so your brother in arms.
Francisco: different about this guy and then eventually we found common ground or no common ground, we both discovered him like Johnny cash.
[Brent Laughs] Francisco: and he is like pausing out there like “I know what you are thinking Brian, how is a Mexican like Johnny Cash?”
[Ben Laughs] Francisco: and that is okay you did not ask me about my mama, my mama was Texan. You know my grandpa you know always send us tapes in Mexico instead of letters, it always had Willy Elson, Johnny Cash in the background while he talked with us. We sit around in Mexico listened to my grandfather’s letters.
Michelle: wow.
Francisco: and saw this history and all growing up at TCU and the [inaudible] “why does he like country music so much?” This is Johnny Cash’s new. [Laughs] [Michelle Laughs] Francisco: and, so you know you make those connections and there are some people that I have met that would have been considered the enemy, if you do not take time to engage people that disagree with you, you know you miss a lot of friendships. You know you can disagree all day long and still be friends. You know—
Brent: Amen.
Ben: a ferocious enemy can make a ferocious friend.
Francisco: we, you know—
Pam: Absolutely.
Francisco: You know, I got in lower engram and I got in trouble 2 weeks ago, I was on you know in her inaugural deal, and you know she speaks Spanish, she is brilliant, she is very intelligent woman, I mean fantastically intelligent, she speaks Russian, speaks Spanish, adopted two babies from Guatemala, when she comes on before we speak in Spanish just like we are speaking right now. She is brilliant, she is intimidatingly brilliant okay, but we know each other so she pops off and she goes you know ‘call me sweetheart’. You know so I to be honest with you, she goes; which country would you choose… “America baby!”
[laughs] Francisco: So man I get the blisters, you know you sexist, you are a [inaudible] and I am like you all do not get it, we know each other—
Michelle: oh no.
Francisco: she got you know a hard time for calling me sweetheart and I am like you all do not get it, it is “you are friends”
Ben: well you were—
Connie: we all are overly sensitive in this society now
Pam: yes.
Ben: I heard they let Pepe Le Pew from Warner Brothers because you—
Connie: what!
Ben: for making advances on women it is—
Francisco: I tell you I got sexually harassed by lower engram; come on do it again baby.
[Laugh] Francisco: I mean it is just we become over year…it have gotten ridiculous, gotten ridiculous
Connie: I talk like that every day, I mean I call everyone Hun, sweetheart, baby—
Ben: yeah but you are twisting someone’s half when you do it; it is almost like a thread…
Francisco: we have got to look beyond the words in to the mood is.
Ben: yeah.
Pam: that is the thing, the people in power are not actually using their power.
Francisco: right exactly.
Pam: intimidate either, anyone.
Francisco: the harassed is the motive, not the words they are using and I am not taking any sides okay, I mean—
Pam: absolutely.
Francisco: [00:32:38] should have gone 30 years ago in the first place, just has been there too long.
Connie: and then you wonder if—you know the ones that are really doing that and then the ones that are not, are they getting accused of doing that? I mean it is just such a mess! You know you do not know.
Pam: well I think it does not hurt for anybody to take sensitivity training on how to talk to people and then also when you are talking about—when you are engaging with somebody, you can watch their face and tell if they are offended—
Francisco: yeah.
Pam: and then apologize immediately and correct the situation.
Francisco: yeah.
Pam: everybody says things off collar from time to time.
Connie: Pam I cannot spend my life apologizing to people.
[Everyone laughs] Pam: I am not asking you to…but if they are making—
Connie: because I am always doing something.
Pam: if they are making those faces, I am just saying—
Connie: I just go; oh crap!
Ben: you kind of make those—you know I am always apologizing to you because I am thinking I have offended you.
Connie: you know Ben apologizes to me all the time.
Francisco: and he should for whatever. [Laughs] Connie: he is scared of you.
Pam: You weren’t just looking—a lot of people are scared of me. But he goes; you were looking at me. I said “I have that look”. “I just look like that” you know. I look like “Argh” like that marine look.
Ben: yeah.
Connie: well Clint Eastwood is my daddy; you are talking about living off your family so I am just going to throw that there for you all who want to give me—
Ben: why would we throw you this look?
Francisco: Clint Eastwood is what?
Connie: Clint Eastwood is my dad.
Francisco: Liar.
[Everyone laughs] Francisco: I would just bow.
Connie: [laughs] God! why would you throw my game out?
Francisco: that is it; I am not worthy being in here
Pam: trying to live off somebody’s name.
[Everyone laughs] Pam: no offense mom and dad let us roll.
Ben: let say we get back to him after he threw you by talking about things you can do to really enjoy Rio Mambo food while we are painting your six-packs.
Connie: okay, so I am really happy today he brought in salmon because number one—that is one the number one list of protein, so proteins are building blocks for muscle, muscles are the building blocks for strength, and also for losing weight.
So the more muscle you have, the more muscle mass you have the more weight you lose. So the more you are building, the more you are burning calories, the higher metabolism is. So he brought in salmon today, fish tacos.
Ben: you are so thoughtful sir, I really appreciate that.
Brent: thank you.
Connie: and listen, there is no Hispanic—I say this all the time, that Hispanic—what is the correct term, because I want to be right here, because I am always messing up.
Francisco: call it what you have to.
Connie: would it be Mexican food? Hispanic food? Tex Mex food?
Francisco: Mexican is Mexican, Cuban is Cuban, I just got back from Cuba, it is what it is.
Connie: okay, so—but technically it is not called Mexican food.
Francisco: some people think being called Mexican is a term of honor.
Ben: does it fall in to tex mex. I mean is that…?
Francisco: You call it—there is tex mex, that is different.
Brent: or you can call it tex mex emass. [Laughs] Francisco: yeah.
[Everyone laughs] Connie: and more. But there is no restaurant that you go into that’s tex mex that does not have healthy choices, because you think about there are a lot of vegetables in there, there are a lot of good meats, it is grilled so there is a lot of great choices and—
Francisco: there is a flour tortillas
Connie: It is the flour tortillas—so get away from those sometimes and get the corn but also you can treat yourself, you just have to treat yourself at times when you deserve it. You cannot treat yourself when you had a—you know six day binge of—
Francisco: Life is short you know
Connie: fast food, but treat yourself and treat yourself responsibly. But there are great choices, go ahead Pam I am sorry.
Pam: They just says that the peppers are good for losing weight too I do not know what they mean
Connie: oh yeah.
Pam: there is something is the spiciness—
Connie: Yeah there is and I will tell you why yes, because anytime you have to raise or lower your temperature your body has to work. And when your body works it is burning calories so anytime you get hot or you get cold or anytime you eat something hot or drink something cold your body… I am moving my hands around [laughs] Connie: that is my Mexican—
Ben: you are not even showing it on… hey let us get Fran on here, Let’s get Fran on here
Connie: so that is—
Francisco: [Inaudible] Ben: oh come on dude.
Pam: let us get in the camera.
Ben: here we go.
Brent: Come on Fran
Connie: So anytime you have to raise or lower your temperature that is where that comes from. So when eat jalapenos, you are going to raise or lower your temperature. Also jalapenos by the way are great for clearing out your sinuses and right now you guys can hear all these sickos who were supposed to be on the show yesterday but was hacking up. Remember I told you a couple of weeks ago what was coming—cold and flu was coming, I knew everybody was going to getting headaches—
Ben: I took your cure and I have avoided the office plague.
Connie: so what I did, I took my vinegar up to you and left it up there—
Ben: and I appreciate it because I had one like every day [Laughs] Connie: yeah so every day—
Francisco: we are supposed to have vinegar?
Connie: yeah apple cider vinegar every day and so I have not even taken it because I gave it—went up there and took it to Ben and left it there and so that is why I got sick so it is your fault that I am sick.
[Pam laughs] Francisco: I took it for years it can…
Connie: and so…oh it is awesome and so everybody has been getting sick and getting the cold and flu so that is when you need to build your immune system up. I told you a few weeks ago beforehand so that you are ready to tackle it. And I want to say hi Chris Mosby because he says he is driving back from little rock and he is listening to us so thank you for listening—
Ben: thank you Chris Mosby.
Connie: and so also with and I want to mention because we are talking about Hispanic community, we have such a diverse group of people that work out at the facility and what I found is when you talk about building families, building relationships, the fitness center is a great place to have—to meet people and to close those gaps. Just not unlike restaurant and great experience, not unlike going into the community and you were talking about you know just not putting up that wall and I do not mean that literally, I just mean putting up the wall between you.
Ben: Wow [Laughs] Connie: sorry I had to; somebody had to bring that up. Somebody had to bring it up
Connie: But not building that wall between people and having clicks and groups but really diving in there. For example we have zumba and zumba class is a great way where—you know we have white people, Mexican people, you know Chinese people whatever doing these classes together and they are all enjoying this Hispanic music—
Francisco: I am doing Mexican with no rhythm.
[Someone Laughs] Michelle: yeah and so there…well half of people that do not and they love it anyways, so that is the whole point of it but—
Ben: I have to put a pin here just real fast, I had like three people come up to me and say that you really need to get your own show because you are killing it, so I just thought I should tell you that.
Michelle: well I am waiting for that okay so—
[Ben Laughs] Brent: hey I got to jump in here just little quickly.
Michelle: jump in there.
Brent: Beverly Johnson; that is my sister watching from San Antonio.
Michelle: Hi Beverly!
Brent: great guest, I live time guest LeAnn, Thomas Moore watching also and gentleman I went to school with Rick Garza is watching so thanks for watching guys.
Pam: oh thanks for watching.
[Audio overlapping] Michelle: so…
Ben: they are not doing an imitation of you from behind that is actually you talking.
Michelle: that is actually me talking. And so where were we? So we were talking about bridging the gaps between people and fitness centers are a great way. You know one of the things that is crazy when I go in the gym, I look around and I see all these people in their work out clothes and I have to remember and remind myself, there is a doctor amongst them, there is a lawyer amongst them, there is a minister amongst them, there is a criminal amongst them.
Francisco: You missed out the lawyers.
[Everyone Laughs] Michelle: I mean… [Laughs] so we are just talking about the lawyers. It’s a good one, I love that. So—and he has got a great personality too. So you look around and you realize what a diverse amount of people are working out in the same facility with no problems, with no arguments, with no you know throwing chairs or whatever, they are all having a good time and working on the same goals and we think about that in life why we cannot do that every day, we got to think about how we are connected, we are all inter connected somehow and I realized doing not just the radio show but also in the fitness facility.
I meet so many people and they come up to me and say; you know who is my cousin or you know who is my aunt or you know who I am related to and sometimes it is somebody that, they are not even of the same race and I am thinking; wow I would have never known that is your uncle or that is your cousin, so we have to really remember that on daily basis and stop being so sensitive everybody, come on you know I call people fat and they get so upset with me and I go; hey Fatty fat quit eating that you know.
[Ben Laughs] Michelle: what are you doing eating that cheese.
Ben: you make them wear the piggy mask?
Michelle: yeah “you are going to wear the nose for the day because you are a pig”. But call it what it is you are over there stuffing your face with cheese; it is you know, I am going to call you fat!
Francisco: at your gym?
Ben: at the gym?
Michelle: Yeah at the gym! Ordering pizza—I have had people order pizza and have it delivered to the gym and I would say; “I will take that thank you”.
Brent: quit telling on me.
[Everyone Laughs] Michelle: and they have to come to my office to get their pizza I go,” really”.
Ben: like at the principal’s office or something. Let me, you know you bring up a very valid point ‘dessert’. Tell us about your desserts.
Brent: yes sir.
[Everyone Laughs] Michelle: oh my goodness.
Brent: you know since we opened [almost falls off the chair] Ben: hello.
Michelle: see!
[Everyone Laughs] Michelle: his chair is falling just so you guys know.
Brent: when we opened we had praline, because typically in a restaurant once you eat free basket of chips, you know four bowls of salsa and whatever else we have to eat.
Ben: 2 bites of taco.
Brent: so we really…but people were asking about them and so a real good friend of mine, he owns a restaurant as well his name is oh goodness…
Francisco: good friend huh?
[Everyone Laughs] Michelle: he has got stage freight.
Pam: it is called part-timers, part of the time we remember them.
Brent: Jerry Teas! Jerry Teas came out to my restaurant and he actually owns another Mexican restaurant over in Dallas called Anamia’s and so I was given plug for that. But he came out to me and we were talking about some things that he was doing and he asked me some questions about this than the other, and he said, “are you guys having pralines, because I have an excellent flan recipe.”
Ben: Flan?
Francisco: It is just pure evil. That is just pure evil. That is solid evil
Brent: yeah and he said; my mom gave it to me, I would like you to have it” and I was like, “wow that is awesome”. And you know it is simple but you know less is best so we started with flan and then as time went forward, one of my favorite of all time is Tres Leches and so one of the cousins from my wife’s side gave me recipe for new year’s eve because on new year’s eve is with all the big parties and I served it at new year’s eve and everyone loved it so Tres Leches came along so, yeah we have a number of different desserts for those you who are disserting clients, Sopapillas, fresh, hot—
Ben: with cinnamon and sugar on the top?
Brent: oh yeah just plane, we have the butter—
Pam: he got us something today right?
Brent: oh no we are going to bring that to you later okay?
[Pam Laughs] Michelle: let me throw in there about that because you are right because often times when you go out to eat you eat so much of the chips—because I do this, I use so much chips and dip before my food comes and I do not even eat the food but what happens you feel obligated now because you ordered this plate and you eat it and then you never get to the dessert. So here is my tip for you my fitness tip: one you are not going to like this but I am just going to say it anyway, split your food with someone else or split it to take it home later because I am going to tell you—
Brent: later is good.
Michelle: you are going to enjoy your plate much better if you do not over stuff yourself because how many times have you have left a restaurant and went “God, I wish I would not have ate that much, I feel miserable”. Listen, if you will split it in a half, take the rest for later and then eat it later you get to enjoy it twice—
Brent: right.
Michelle: so now you are not…you do not have to talk about how great it was—
Ben: the thanksgiving trick that you were talking about.
Francisco: skip the chips.
Michelle: yes. So you can say, ”hey I brought home half of my Rio mambo food and I am going to you know eat it for dinner and now I get to enjoy it twice but also you are not feeling that you know overwhelming stuffed feeling and you get to enjoy dessert too. So you can also get to order the dessert.
Pam: we have a large family and so what we usually do is order one, two or three desserts for everybody—
Brent: right.
Pam Aster: and everybody gets a spoon and gets to try all of them. And that is our tip is, we do the half a plate.—
Michelle: yeah instead of just passing up the dessert all together at the restaurant just so at least order one so everybody can try it because then you can walk away saying, “ oh next time I am going to save roam for that and not eat so many chips but the—
[Pam Laughs] Michelle: and the flan by the way is not a bad dessert because it is so small—
Brent: right.
Michelle: it is—you are getting a little taste of heaven without over stuffing yourself so it is a great choice.
Ben: with a hell of a stuffed belly.
[Laughs] Brent: well if you do not want to get heavy there is always fried ice-cream that is a really good item.
[Everyone agrees] Brent: that is my wife’s favorite so I got to admit.
Pam: I think it is moderation.
Brent: absolutely. And to your point typically when we bring a dessert out in there, they are decent sized desserts, so we will put 3 spoons on there.
Michelle: right.
Brent: and that people share them.
Michelle: I cannot wait.
[Everyone Laughs] Ben: so we know there is like a new form of desserts that do you entertain it on, do you like a perspective menu of desserts that you kind of entertain like I am sure fried ice cream was not on there at one point.
Brent: Well no—again like New Year’s Eve we, we did a new year’s eve deal, we tried to do something different for the new year’s eve for our final evening. And so many things come up, people eat the Montalvo, he is one of my chefs and he wanted to do that on new year’s eve and we did it and there was such a great response that I could not, not put it on the menu, so typically that is how things end up on the menu.
Ben: not to give away any secrets but does that involve, is there some way you coat it to stop the heat from melting it or?
Brent: yeah absolutely. What we do is pretty simple; you take the ice-cream and you freeze it really hard first, then we coat it—
Ben: okay, okay.
Brent: and then we freeze that, that way it is nice you know, and then we cook it for about 3 to 4 minutes.
Pam Aster: and then we eat it.
Ben: and it is just to die for
Brent: yes it is awesome.
Pam Aster: I am thinking that even though you are an experienced restitutory you have got all these success stories all over, you are still going to need some people to come in and do a soft opening.
Brent: absolutely.
Pam Aster: I am just saying there are some people in this room that might come help you there.
[Ben Laughs] Brent: you know we are considering that but I was told that there is nothing soft here in Burleson.
Ben: oh!
Brent: I heard everything is pretty intense here in Burleson, people come in.
Pam Aster: pretty squishy.
Ben: I would refer to you as a restaurant tour any time you want; I do not think I have ever used that word so thank you Pam.
Michelle: I am very particular by the way so I will be a good judge and also online somebody says speaking of when it is opening?
Brent: oh goodness, can I say before Christmas is that early enough?
Pam: that is acceptable.
Brent: I had a guest ask me if we would be opened by the 16th, he had a party of 25 [Laughs] so I said I cannot commit to that because there are so many moving parts and if it is up to me it would be open this weekend but there are inspectors.
Pam Aster: you wanted it to right.
Michelle: oh yeah.
Brent: right yeah absolutely.
Ben: what is the address?
Brent: 295 East Renfro Street and it is the North West corner of Renfro Street and 35.
Ben: and what is it like now, is it basically getting stuff ready kind of tweaking the—?
Brent: well no, it is full court press right now, we have got all the ceilings in, we are dropping all the ceilings and the air conditioning ducts are in. We are putting in equipment in the kitchen and we start painting on Monday.
Ben: Painting?
Brent: We have already done the kitchen floors which takes entire weekend, the Thanks Giving weekend.
Ben: gas masks for the fumes?
Brent: absolutely. And then we, we will starting painting, the bars are in, part tops are in, all we have to do now is start putting together tables and chairs.
Connie: I will tell you what I will do everybody that comes in December, in the month of December—
Brent: yes?
Connie Little: gets a free week pass to one of my objects.
Brent: Well that is awesome, thank you so much.
Connie Little: so yes we will give you a free week, they will get the whole week free, VIP that can use kids club pertaining the whole things so…
Brent: that is awesome.
Ben: that is awfully generous of you
Michelle: so just out of curiosity, are you able to sell gift certificates right now for all those kids?
Brent: well sure, absolutely.
Michelle: how do they do that?
Brent: they can do online at; it is easy to buy them online.
Michelle: Perfect.
Brent: and we mail them directly to you or to your guests.
Michelle: And they are gift for any location no?
Brent: Gift for every location.
Michelle: got it.
Ben: are you going to have an official first dish like the first person that walks in and gets a, you can like give them a prize as or have balloons or something you know like?
Brent: Oh, I need to get with you Ben because you have a lot of great ideas.
Ben: Thank you.
[Everyone laughs] Ben: Wohoo!
Brent: I think I went to an opening of a good friend of mine, also his name is Brent with Boomerjacks and they did a nice opening where they had several entree, several desserts and we are going to do something like that and we will probably do that charity, donate to a local charity, we will do that but this could be one of those things where we are going to let you know and Ben, we will let you know and—
Ben: please.
Brent: but and we will put it on Facebook.
Francisco: I’ll be there tonight.
[Everyone laughs] Brent: Yeah, absolutely, we will tell you it will be… it is tomorrow you know we aren’t going to have a lot so, but yeah we are going to absolutely do something where the community can come in and friends like you guys can come in and taste a few things, put a little pressure on our kitchen and you guys get some—
Pam Aster: as you are starting to navigate the community I just want to do that pitch to you that I would love to be a resource for you for nonprofits, I actually work for an organization called ‘The Resource Network’.
Brent: Wonderful.
Pam Aster: And I am familiar with all 112 of them.
Brent: Let us talk today.
Pam Aster: Absolutely
Ben: well awesome, well, I am going to do—
Michelle: you know what is really sad to me is that…sorry Ben I have to say this…
[Ben laughs] Michelle: which really sad to me is that we have, I do not know what we will call you, what was your specialty Francisco like immigration?
Francisco: Anything about family law.
[Someone laughs] Michelle: so the pillar of Hispanic community?
Pam Aster: He is not getting in those—
[Audio overlapping] Ben: an attorney immigration advocate.
Michelle: Yes all we are talking about is food. We have fitness, we have immigration but all we are talking about is food.
Francisco: I am good with it.
Pam Aster: we have talked about everything, I am sorry. [Laughs] Michelle: But that just tells how close food is to our heart—
Francisco: sure.
Michelle: we love it.
Francisco: hey it is a crossbow.
Brent: we can stop talking about food and start talking about margaritas if you want to.
Ben: I love margaritas.
[Everyone Laughs] Francisco: want to drink some?
Brent: if I did not I could tell you.
Ben: I am good.
Connie: Francisco did take his tie off.
Ben: I have got a story where that combines both of it
Michelle: you did not want to give me margaritas.
Ben: I was working in south Texas for a paper there and George West, you know they have a lot of people coming over the border and making their way through and one of things that you know cops there, the local cops they were more government cops they, you know when these people came over starved and thirsty, they would actually the cops would pull their own money to get them water and jerky and stuff to eat and so…
Francisco: oh yeah you would find that these folks are, especially in Texas you know in Texas, we may be the reddest state in country but for immigration we think differently. What do they say; the border is much wider, the border between Mexico and Texas is much broader the further you get away from Texas. In Texas you know—
Ben: some of the most human people.
Francisco: it is just the co-existence and it is what it is and that does not have anything to do with party politics.
Pam Aster: and I have never really said this on the radio before I am going to stretch out here just for a minute, so I was blessed to be born in Texas, lived here most of my life, moved out to Arkansas for a while that was a mistake, but anyway I am back and so—
Francisco: you got to see hell before you appreciate heaven
[Everyone Laughs] Pam: well you know the whole thing of it is that I am not strongly political person but I have been to Mexico and I know how hard it is to live there because the economy and the way the country is and such that
Francisco: it is the corruption, says it, just lay it as the corruption.
Connie: it is true.
Pam: you know it is just an amazing place.
Francisco: and the crimes yes.
Pam Aster: the culture and the way the families work together it is an amazing place to go but I am telling you if I was born south of the border I would have learned to swim I am just saying—
Francisco: but…sure.
Pam Aster: I am just saying because here is an amazing—I love Johnson County.
Francisco: there is a reason people hang under a train for 8 hours after being on top of a train from Honduras to get to the Promised Land guys, it is not un-American guys—
Pam Aster: it is the Promised Land.
Francisco: this is the Promised Land. This is the only country in the world where people die trying to get to it.
Michelle: and we go there for vacations.
Francisco: yes. [Laughs] Michelle: and it is crazy.
Francisco: but you are right.
Pam Aster: but every one of us, if we take in and search back our lineage, say for the native Americans if we do that, we all find and I have native American blood in me as well, but we find that we are not from here. I mean I was born here but my history is Germany and all different kinds. It is—
Michelle: and not native Americans which Cherokee are mostly Asians believe that or not.
Pam: yes and it just amazes me that we live in a time where people are denying folks. Now I know that the whole argument gets into being whether it is illegal or legal but I am telling you if I did not have the funds,
Francisco: feeding your family can’t be illegal.
Pam Aster: I did not want to be put in the back of a truck you know for 19 hours with no food or water, if I would have learned to swim. I just would have. [Laughs] Francisco: nobody chooses to do it, nobody does it on purpose.
Pam Aster: well no.
Connie Little: what is the process when somebody gets here from Mexico or wherever, what is the process that they have to go through?
Francisco: well you know and that is the legit, you just put your finger on your lips in the entire debate but entire debate, the entire debate focuses on what you just said.
Connie Little: because I do not know it.
Francisco: if you can get the discussion down to that one point, the biggest resentment in the lady from Fox news said to me; “Francisco look, I am tired of hating you, let me just lay it out for you.
[Everyone Laughs] Ben: she called you Francis?
[Everyone Laughs] Francisco: Francisco. She says ”Look, let me lay it out to you, if I am having a party in my house, it is my house, if I want to have the decision to who I invite, okay I would put out a guest book and the guest, I want them to sign the guest book” and initially you want to be offended by that but then I thought you know what you are absolutely right! What people resent on the opposite side of the T.V of me is; why cannot they just can get in line, why cannot they just come in here legally, why cannot…there is no line for me. Once we can make that clear, okay one, if you come here legally there is no line to form, okay? So that—
Michelle: so that is what you are saying there is no, you cannot just walk over and says; hey I am ready to sign up, where to sign?
Francisco: and you cannot even apply in Mexico. We give the opposite incentive, the people who can get the tourist visa; they come over on tourist visa and over stayed! In other words our incentive is; you get less punished if you cross legally and over stayed your visa then if you come across illegally where you got no rights. It makes—we are going to reward you if you come here illegally and then violate the law, it makes no sense. I get it!
Michelle: you are violating the law either way so you are saying that—
Francisco: right, but the—you know—if they are—look they are bottom line—most complex problems had the easiest solutions, it is just that if we can get past the old Willis, longest servant state legislation in Texas, and I have his chair in my office, he goes, “Frank, in politics there are 2 things, you can try to get your way or you want to be right, which one do you want?” and I said,” you want to be right, you want to be for right”, “no! You want to get your way”
Brent: right.
Francisco: if we just forgo especially my side, on just wanting to prove everybody is so wrong, let us get to what we all have in common. We solved this entire issue and I am speaking against my own side here, temporary worker visas?
Connie: so they just have to apply for that when they get here?
Francisco: let us create temporary—right now there is only 60,000 a year and the big corporations have them tied up by February, temporary worker visas, if the job is there, okay you come up, the employer has every reason to report him as an employee because, right?
Connie Little: right.
Francisco: they come up for 6 or 9 months a year, go back and rebuild Mexico and people could have create their own live, business, community Mexico, they would not have to depend on the drug cartels for the economy. And they would have been able to—
Michelle: so you are saying give them a temporary 9 months—
Francisco: yes.
Michelle: or 6 whatever it is—
Francisco: 6 is enough.
Michelle: and they still have to go back home so they are going to take that money go back home and build something right.
Francisco: they want to go back home but we did not.
Ben: real fast I want to quickly say, my boss wanted me to get a counter point going with you and I have colleague—my colleague Shane Kledinin was going to call in the show and talk to you about some of the stuff but he apparently he has missed the call.
Francisco: but there are very valid counter points.
Ben: yeah no—
Francisco: we just do not want to hear them.
[Pam Laughs] Ben: right, I was just saying I had a great little interchange for you but that seems to have fallen through and I am sorry to my boss.
[Audio overlapping] Francisco: I just told you a counter point, right? I am being countered because the more liberal side or pro-immigration would say temporary worker visa is abuse, no we do not want because the democrats had these thing since 1987 that if we did the amnesty they would eventually become citizens and if they become citizens and register their vote and they would vote democrat. There is no bigger lie. My dad has been… the only reason I ever voted democrats is because my dad was trying to force me to go vote for Bill Klem the first republican governor, I mean that was in 1982.
Ben: 82, oh.
Francisco: the first time.
Ben: yeah.
Francisco: and I am like “who?”, you know woke me up at 6:30 in the morning and said “you will be the first to vote” I am like,” who who’s…”
Ben: was it that important to your dad to be fundraiser?
Francisco: oh yeah, no he fundraised for Bill Klamath, he you know if he became a citizen today he could and he has been a life learned—my older brother, I am the only person ever with resident visa but who is running against him?
[Someone Laughs] Francisco: Oh some jackass named Mark Quinton, I would say Mark Quinton it is. That is what it is.
[Everyone Laughs] Francisco: My dad was getting up at 6:30 in the morning and saying “go vote”.
Ben: you were in—when I remember you around 2000 that was when you were a municipal judge, right?
Francisco: yeah from like 1998 to about 2002.
Ben: was that a—is that a non-partisan position?
Francisco: yeah it is appointed—it is work for the city—yeah it is fine, it is most fun job as a lawyer I ever had, it didn’t paid crap but it’s
[Pam Laughs] Ben: yeah I remember we talked a lot about your work on president
[Audio overlapping] Francisco: oh yeah you did an article on that
Ben: yeah that was…so I was just wondering in terms of when it gets like that I mean is it more fun when it is not partisan or does it better when it gets partisan?
Francisco: oh you know you got to live with it. I mean we are a political country, there is nothing wrong with it, it is just what we have got to get behind and it sounded cliché we have got to be able to get past the disagreement. For example: you know if the democrats really wanted to do immigration reforms guess what, all you got to do is go to or come up to President Trump and go “we have got 48 votes for you, you just need three”. Right? Come up with something, whatever you want to come up with, I do not care what it is, build the dam over, we have to legalize a hundred thousand Mexicans to build it right.
[Everyone Laughs] Ben: Amen
Francisco: and there is nothing wrong with admitting or recognizing that Mexico shares 50 percent of the problem of the illegal immigration problem.
Pam: yes.
Francisco: they are fleeing a corrupt government, a criminal area; we cannot admit that Mexico cannot ensure the safety of its citizens why? Because our political asylum rules; if either country admits or recognizes that the country of Mexico cannot safely secure the safety of its citizens, we have to admit a 120 million Mexicans over here on political asylum.
Michelle: right and so what do you say to the—because I am going to speak on opposite to you because that is what is fun.
Francisco: yes.
[Someone Laughs] Michelle: but what do you say to people that say “you know why is that our problem”, “it is not our problem and”—
Francisco: sure.
Michelle: now as a human being this is not me speaking—
Francisco: yeah sure.
Michelle: this is—
Francisco: oh I know what you mean, you can tell me it is your problem—
Michelle: yeah.
Ben: it is the beauty of opposition.
Michelle: I do not see it like that because I think this is a world and I am Christian and I—
Francisco: sure.
Michelle: and I believe we all live in this world and I should be able to go to Germany or—
Francisco: I get it.
Ben: but the role you are playing right now is—
[Audio overlapping] Francisco: Why should Mexico’s problems our concern?
Michelle: so why it is our problem if you cannot control your people and you have a bunch of criminals there why do not you get a hold of them and get them out. That is what people are going to say so…
Francisco: and let me tell you what happened, historically since the 1910 revolution and then Mexico nationalized, I will make it as brief as a wonderful history lesson, you know they nationalized oil because unions, standard union overall had pretty much was raping Mexico out of oil so they made it national, okay so all these duties, terrorists grew over 60 70 well from 1910 to 1990 when NAFTA passed in 1994 but really about 1992.
Okay, so all of these duties and terrorist impeding commerce okay, so what they did is they made the NAFTA and I was a big proponent of NAFTA but NAFTA was death for Mexico, because what happened is that idea was that you create the Maquiladora, create manufacturing along the border of Mexico and it is going to create, increase the wages and eliminate the need for people to go up to United States illegally, right?
Good consent, first year great, Maquiladora all over the place, wages did start to rise, wow! Okay, it is beginning to work, okay business is going but in the meanwhile the terras from Mexicans or for U.S goods to go to Mexico, we used to be in manufacturing society. Then we began a marketing society, then we became a service now we are just internet society.
Michelle: you know because it used to anytime you buy something it would be like it is now ‘made in China’ but it was ‘made in Mexico’ everything was made in Mexico—
Francisco: right. So—
Michelle: now you do not see that hardly anywhere.
Francisco: what happened was, Ross Barol was right in of the [inaudible] there was a giant sand of the jobs, it just did not go to Mexico because as soon as they went up to a $1 an hour we took over manufacturing where?
Everyone: China.
Francisco: China! So all of these Maquiladoras there is rows and rows and rows—
Pam Aster: just as right now.
Francisco: of abandoned empty warehouses, and in the meanwhile, Wal-Mart and the Jolly Green Giant swarmed all over Mexico okay? We created the richest man in the world Carlos Salinas’s right? I will tell you that crooked story in a second.
[Someone Laughs] Francisco: no seriously, seriously! So all of a sudden the Jolly Green Giant goes to Mexico and they can put up a can of corn on the shelf in Wal-Mart cheaper than the little share cropper of 10 generations can grow it, much less harvested.
Michelle: and then distribute it.
Francisco: right so what are they going to do, they got a pile of dirt so either that or grow marijuana; well cartel lord took over that, so head up north!
[Pam Laughs] Francisco: right?
Pam Aster: right.
Francisco: and [inaudible] so what we did is in 1994 one of the biggest chapters in NAFTA was telecommunications I was in South Western Bell, this is the truth, okay? They bid out to privatize the Mexican telephone company so Southwestern Bell goes down to bid it with a couple of partners and President Carlos Salinas de Gortari goes in and tells them; “well you know Mr. Witter you are going to need a partner, a Mexican partner, you are going to need a partner to negotiate with the unions and make sure everything goes smoothly”, “okay and let me introduce you to my buddy Carlos Salinas” who was wealthy but a nobody really, right? Carlos Salinas got his percent of Telmax, I later calculated his gross, I do not know how many people he had to pay off out of this but 20 million a month.
Everyone: wow.
Pam Aster: that could have been going to the country.
Francisco: that was his share if you look at a subscriber’s minds in 1994, right? From there he propels to the richest man in the world, okay? We were complacent that is why…why is it our problem? We were complacent in it.
Pam Aster: wow.
Francisco: right? We allowed him; we went along with it, right? And how much of that Carlos Salinas, but now he is the richest man in the world, okay? Point, ran into a Vicente Fox at the airport couple of years ago and later on, my wife said; “what did Fox do? What did Fox do?” Here are the two things; he beat the PRI, the dictatorship of 72 years, after that he can only go down right? How much can he…
Michelle: that is the best thing ever yeah.
Francisco: right. And so the second one struck me 2 years ago when I am sitting there at the lines of American airlines at the airport and he is over there standing by there, I did not get out of the line because he is no longer president but I know him.
[Ben Laughs] Francisco: but I was not going to move from my spot, but then he is just there by himself and then the sister comes over and says something and they leave. You guys have not even gotten my point yet, but he it is so obvious he is right in front of you okay?
Brent: standing in line.
Francisco: no! I was in that thought you know before president Fox, 72—you know every president before Fox and since as soon as he left off he had to flee the country.
Connie Little: oh.
Francisco: Carlos Salinas had to go to Arab; they had to flee country because they stole so much! Vicente Fox—he rejected the security detail, he did not have it, he watched around by himself just…in later on in Mexico.
Michelle: because he has no reason to fear.
Francisco: you think George Bush daddy can do that in Maine or in Houston, Texas his hometowns, we would not even allow that.
Pam Aster: right.
Francisco: and Fox is walking around like nothing. That is what he did, now we have gotten back, Mexico is more corrupt right now than it was in the 70’s.
Pam and Michelle: wow.
Connie Little: how do you fix that?
Francisco: you empower the people—temporary worker visas get money flowing back, they ripped paymax, paymax is broke, they have pillaged it so that was the number one income to Mexico. Now the biggest free untaxed income or they are having a career is money down, document it and send it to Mexico monthly, right? Mexico government does not have to produce those jobs.
Pam Aster: right.
Francisco: so they look at them, all that is on document…look in Mexico they say they were traders they were looked upon until Vicente Fox came, they were traitors for leaving the country. So you know we say “you traitor you traitor but send the money, send the money, send the money!”
Michelle: right.
Francisco: you know and here we are; “oh you greasy little brown nasty little Mexicans do not come, put it on my roof, put it on my roof”. That is how it is.
Michelle: right. You know independence is power and we give them independence—
Francisco: right.
Michelle: what I mean is financial independence—
Francisco: right.
Michelle: and they can stand on their own.
Francisco: they can build their own houses again.
Michelle: without being scared, without being worried—
Francisco: that is it.
Michelle: because if you are worried everyday about meal—
Francisco: right.
Michelle: or how you are going to drink water or how you are going to have you know heat, electricity and things like that—
Francisco: yeah.
Michelle: you are not worried about who is in government.
Pam Aster: I think really probably one of the most amazing things for me is actually being able to go to Mexico, we went to Cozumel and we did not do the ‘I am going to go to Mexico’ thing we actually went to a nonprofit and saw how Americans are actually helping kids who have been either abandoned or taken away from their parents. Mexico actually if you abuse your child, they will take him but then they do not have a program in place for how they are cared for.
Francisco: they do not allow international adoptions.
Pam Aster: no!
Francisco: is that not stupid?
Pam Aster: the whole thing—
Francisco: We worked for 2 years with Vicente Fox trying to change that law.
Pam Aster: my life from nonprofit sit me down there to try and figure that out what they are doing for kids and the organizations that are actually making a difference are from Americans that—
Francisco: yeah.
Pam Aster: that have gone down there and they have built these complexes and homes and how I am immersed in this visit, I am thinking, ”well I do not want to go to Rio Mambo although I am sure if you have one in Mexico it would have been amazing, I wanted to go somewhere and see—
Francisco: yeah.
Pam Aster: how these families are preparing food.
Brent: sure.
Pam Aster: they took us down to a market, we walked through and see how people get their groceries which is not a Wal-Mart and it is everybody that is raising food or doing however—
Francisco: yeah.
Pam Aster: and then across the street we went into a family’s home and they have turned their living room into a restaurant and everybody in the family works there and we tried talking to them most of them do not speak really very good English and I do not speak Spanish but the whole conversation was about well this is what we have to do. There is not a place you know you have to start you own little business in the farmer’s market or you have to have a restaurant because there is not a place to go down to the street and work. It is everybody has to try and make a living and—
Francisco: sure.
Pam Aster: and if you cannot work there you, if everybody in every position in the family restaurant in the living room is taken then where are you going to work.
Francisco: let me take a step further, even like in you know everybody knows the story about the little kid selling Chiclets alright little trickles—
Michelle: oh my God.
Francisco: where people are begging
Pam Aster: they are everywhere.
Francisco: but did you know cartels have taken over that business. Now they control them—
Michelle: the little kids?
Francisco: each one of them to be allowed their family because—
Michelle: meaning I am giving my money to the cartels?
Francisco: yes, yes.
Pam Aster: wow.
Ben: I knew it! [Laughs] Francisco: because the kids, their parents are over there selling the same thing.
Michelle: you know what I do, I get—I told you all a story, I get one kid and they have 27 kids following me—
Francisco: they all go.
Michelle: because they love me, I am thinking they love me, now you are telling me because the cartels sent them over to me—
Francisco: well—
Michelle: and I would buy 80, a hundred dollars’ worth of Chiclets because I am like—
Francisco: right, but now in the last 4, 5 years what they have done is they have given them a privilege fee, they got to pay the privilege fee to be able to sit there and sell the Chiclets.
Michelle: so they are shaking down the little kids.
Francisco: they are shaking down…well it is the family you know mom and dad are just over there.
Ben: folks this is fascinating, we are going to really have to wind it down—
[Laughs] [Audio overlapping] Ben: over the show but I was kind of hoping we could kind of wind it up a little bit, Fran you know go ahead finish your thought or whatever you want to do.
Francisco: no that was it, that was it.
Ben: okay.
[Someone Laughs] Ben: so she is buying illegal Chiclets and
[Michelle Laughs] Ben: and affording the—
Michelle: [Laughs] I gave them back to them, I just gave them the money basically.
Pam Aster: well you know and to answer your question a while ago ‘why is it our problem?’ because we are human and whether you are on the left side or the right side or in between we are all humanists and if we are not taking care of our neighbors then we are not doing anything.
Ben: but thank you for playing the devil because asking that question that kind of
[Audio overlapping] Michelle: well just for the record that is not how I feel and—
Francisco: I know it is not.
Michelle: I do not care if anybody agrees that is watching or does not like me anymore but—
[Pam Laughs] Michelle: I would just say that whenever somebody comes in to buy gym membership and I cannot speak Spanish and they do not speak good English I feel inadequate I am just going… I do not know why.
Ben: and you should.
Michelle: I feel like; oh my gosh I wish…I feel so stupid right now but that I cannot speak.
[Ben Laughs] Michelle: Like I took Spanish, I should know something but I do not know why I feel that way and then I went to Harlingen which is a very nice community by the way and all the people at high school were awesome there but I went into the Wal-Mart and all the signs were in Spanish and I was like; I do not know where anything is. And this Wal-Mart is not laid out like my Wal-Mart but everything was in Spanish I just thought that was very interesting
Francisco: I just realized we are also the only country where the concept of ‘press 2 for…’ the most controversial thing should it be number 1 or number 2 for Spanish, we both evolved to number 2 because it offended people if they did ‘press 1 for Spanish’. We are the only country including Mexico that offers “Spanish option 2”.
Michelle: well that is a good step.
Francisco: that is a good thing.
Michelle: that is a good step.
Brent: Well I just—I just got that from Europe—
Michelle: we are making progress.
Francisco: we are way ahead of the world.
Brent: and traveled through the Czech Republic, Germany, Hungary, Vienna and those people know 3 and 4 languages.
Michelle: I know they do.
Francisco: because they have.
Michelle: you are right.
Brent: and just for better or for worse from time to time, not very often but from time to time I will have a guest get frustrated be it there or online about some of my servers who’s English may not be as strong as they may want it and my only response to them is; when you go to Italy you want an Italian waiter.
[Everyone Laughs] Brent: when you go to Russia you want a Russian waiter.
Michelle: there you go.
Brent: and if you are going to come down to a Mexican restaurant…we are authentic in every way we do our business so…
Michelle: awesome.
Pam Aster: we cannot wait for you to be here, we are so excited.
Brent: thank you so much.
Ben: so as an international man of ministry—
[Everyone Laughs] Ben: going to those places, do you—I guess do you—how far out have you been there with the Rio Mambo message?
Brent: no, you know I think I told you when I got here, we did not build the first to build a second, third, and fourth or eighth or ninth, opportunities had presented themselves. We are not a chain of restaurants we are a collection of restaurants serving communities and each one I had the privilege of going in and looking at the walls and kind of deciding where things go and we tried to build just different homes different custom homes if you will.
And so you know I do not have a goal at all of going for sure on international but not even national. I built one in San Antonio and because that is where my brother in law lives and that is 250 miles from my front porch it is not good because I like to go to them every day, should I choose, I like to taste the sauce if I need to and so wherever I go I am always tasting, it is kind of hard to taste it as far as San Antonio so, we are very local, I can drive to every restaurant I have and be there within 45 minutes so…
Ben: cool.
Pam Aster: awesome.
Ben: I guess you ever see a day when that might change, I mean like you know somebody from the Czech Republic comes in and has to have a Rio mambo there and you know…
[Someone Laughs] Brent: well I was in—I was in Karlovy Vary and we went to Tequila Mexico to the [inaudible] Francisco: pay your respects.
Brent: absolutely. I met Juan Domingo and we were launching 2017th reserva familia tequila, always awesome and there was a young lady—
Francisco: after the 3rd shot who cares…
[Everyone Laughs] Brent: No I will tell you, now I drink tequila straight at the right temperature all weekend and never got a headache and never got out of line, if you drink quality tequila, it is a wonderful stuff.
Francisco: are you hearing this?
Michelle: I never drink that stuff so I do not get it.
Brent: no I mean also so there was a young lady who was there from London who had just bought a Mexican concept, restaurant concept from United States that had…were struggling over there and so she asked me if I were ever going to bring the Rio mambo over there and I said, “no I am going to let you do those” I will not name the name of the restaurant, it is a popular restaurant here in United States but I never say never but when that happens I will probably not be involved.
Michelle: you need to do the doctor evil thing, ”one…”
[Everyone Laughs] Brent: Remember what I said it is not about money, it is about family and relationships.
Ben: Well, I have got to say it comes through in the food—we really—I—that was amazing, awesome. [Laughs] Brent: Well, good awesome and thank you for the opportunity, I really appreciate it.
Ben: I want to basically ask both of you all if you come back at some point when you feel germane. We would have you back on air, you do not have to bring food, but just come talk about—
Connie: Yes he does.
Francisco: [Laughs] I will come back if he brings food.
Brent: Francisco, Pam, Connie I really enjoyed it, I need to spend more time with you, I love your passion for what you are doing, and the stories he has told.
Michelle: [inaudible] guest together because you are South of Immigration and he is South of Immigration.
Brent: No it was very—this is my first time ever doing this, someone said that I had a face for radio so that is good. [Laugh] but no I really enjoyed it –
Pam Aster: You have got a great voice too.
Brent: I love what you said, you know Ken Stone?
Michelle: No I do not.
Brent: Ok, Ken Stone also does fitness, he was right next to me on my first restaurant, so on my platter there is a Ken’s plate, because he said “hey you have something” you know, it is grilled chicken—
Michelle: So I get a Michelle plate at Rio Mambo?
Brent: Absolutely, absolutely.
Michelle: I cannot wait!
Ben: It has got nothing on it.
Brent: That was tough yeah.
Michelle: I used to—I did have a couple restaurants that I frequent in, and when I lived in Dallas and they had plates named after me, so we are going to name a plate after me, you all hear that, he is committing to this on the radio.
Brent: You have to talk to my wife, her name is not on there yet either so,
Michelle: You can call it the fit plate.
Ben: But you will come back when you have a —
Brent: Absolutely, any time you ask we had a great time, really wonderful time.
Pam Aster: Thank you, thank you.
Francisco: And Francisco, it is really kind of weird, since I call you Fran all those years.
Francisco: You called me much worse before that.
[Everyone Laughs] Ben: Oh no, you are making me wonder if I am the guy who fought you back then, would it be cool if you come back, I would love to hear more, I don’t think we have not even scratched the surface.
Francisco: yeah I would love to, yeah.
Michelle: We can do an hour on just immigration I think.
Ben: For sure.
Michelle: Am I ready? Am I going?
Ben: I was going to—yeah,
Michelle: Well, you are looking at me weird.
Brent: I loved what you had to say, I want to talk to you about it, especially the whole protein thing.
Michelle: yeah, absolutely, so Salmon is great by the way, so I-fit, I-fit elite, Crowley Burleson, come in we have massage therapy, we have free healthy water, high alkaline health water we are giving away, we have personal trainers, get a jump start on the holidays and tie in Rio Mambo we have this year, I want to—I know we are over I am sorry but I got to say this. Thanksgiving I understand why we have turkey and the vegetables, because the pilgrims came and talked to my people, and you know we did a thing, but why do we have that for Christmas because I am pretty sure the Jews were not making turkey, isn’t that weird?
Francisco: That is probably true.
Brent: It is the leftover turkey.
Ben: I insist on ham for me so I do not know, I do not know how turkey came in.
Brent: I personally think it should be Mexican food but that is just me.
Michelle: So, I have asked a couple—
Francisco: but even in Mexico we do Turkey.
Michelle: so, so that is why I was bringing up so, this year I am going against tradition. I am having Christmas in my house as I always do but I am having Italian food because I did not know Rio Mambo was coming but next year you all know, but we are not going to have none of the traditional food, because everyone is like why, what is the big deal, it is not a–, we are going to make it a big deal by making something different, so, they will be open by Christmas, there is a great idea for you, come in and buy all the food, something different, surprise your family and do something different for the holidays and you can get the Flan and all that great stuff and then you can come in and work out after because you are going to get a free week pass after you go in there.
Brent: Awesome.
Francisco: Fried turkey enchiladas.
Connie: How do they get their free week pass?
Michelle: I guess I will just give you guys a stack and anybody that comes in is welcome to—or you can just bring your receipt and say I was at Rio Mambo, here is my receipt and I will give you a free VIP weak.
Ben: Connie.
Connie: Love it, so I just want to say, Connie Little, Jocko Community radio, Pam Aster is amazing because she owns this place and she gives everybody a voice, and for you all to be here and bond and develop these relationships and as Brent said Rio Mambo stands for “relationships matters” and that is really what Jocko Community Radio stands for as well, because we are here trying to create a bond–
Ben: And Burleson star live.
Connie: and Burleson star live, but we are really just trying to give people a voice, a platform to stand on to speak what they need to speak and send the messages that they need to send to the people here within the community to help one another. So, I just appreciate you all being here and I am just so happy to being a part of this.
Ben: Pam.
Pam Aster: Pam Asters, and where we share the stories, play the music and sing songs of Johnstown community.
Brent: very cool.
Brent: That is awesome. Ben Tinsley, Burleson star live also editor of the Burleson star, we have had some wonderful guests today, and we will have wonderful guests tomorrow. Check us on Facebook a little later, as Michelle is waving at the screen. Check us out on Facebook a little later, we will have tomorrow’s guests.
Brent: Get in there, Fran. Get in there, Fran.
Ben: on late Friday we will have all next week’s guests so have a great day and thanks for listening.
Michelle: Alright, awesome.
Connie: Okay, bye everybody.

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